This article explains Prem Kamble's Prem Spirituality Model in an interesting conversation or as a dialogue between two persons, Jack and Jill. Jack's words are marked in red colour.

Prem Spirituality Model was presented by Prem Kamble at the 8th International Conference on "Sustainable and Human Development Through Spirituality, Peace Economics and Peace Science" on 6th April, 2018 at Bangalore, India.

The paper has been published in International Journal of Exclusive Management Research, June 2018 (paper is downloadable here). While this article explains the model in an intersting conversation, the full article is available here and a a brief introduction is also available here

Jack: Hey, everyone. Welcome back.

Today we're going to be taking a deep dive into this paper called "Spirituality for the Common Man" by Prem Kamble.

Jill: Oh, yeah, I've heard of this one.

Jack: Have you?

Jack: Yeah.

Jack: Cool.

Jill: Yeah.

Spirituality & Science: Making it more Accessible to the Common Man

Jack: He's got this really interesting idea about making spirituality more accessible by using scientific concepts and analogies. It tries to simplify this complex idea so that people from both scientific and spiritual backgrounds can relate to it

Jill: OK.

Jack: So it's kind of like, what if we could actually, like, measure feelings the same way we measure distance, you know?

Could there be a science of the mind that's just as precise as physics is?

So I'm really excited to kind of unpack this with you and see what kind of insights we can uncover.

Yeah, it's a fascinating concept, isn't it?

Yeah.

This model that Kamble proposes, it's called the Prem Spirituality Model.

OK.

It attempts to bridge this gap between spirituality and science.

Totally.

And that gap can feel pretty wide sometimes, for sure. So let's just dive right into some of the key ideas in the paper.

Kamble starts off by talking about all the unrest and the violence we see in the world. And he suggests that spirituality could be the antidote.

And he seems to think that a more straightforward, almost like scientific definition of spirituality might help with that.

Yeah, he really argues for a definition that resonates with everyone, regardless of their background or their beliefs. And this clarity, he believes, is essential for what he calls the spiritual revolution.

OK, a revolution.

Spiritual Revolution with Spiritual Science

I'm intrigued, but I need a little more context here. What exactly does he mean by this Spiritual revolution.

Well, he compares it to the industrial and information revolutions.

Those were obviously fuelled by breakthroughs in material science. But this revolution, he says, would be driven by advances in understanding the mind itself, what he calls mind science or spiritual science.

OK, so instead of focusing on technology or material goods, this revolution is about understanding our inner world, our thoughts and feelings, that kind of thing.

And he actually suggests that this understanding could be just as transformative for society as any technological advancement.

OK, Now I'm starting to see where this is going.

Physical Space & Mental Space

The paper talks about this idea of mental space, where our feelings act like coordinates, almost like a map of our inner landscape.

He draws a parallel with physical space.

Just like we have coordinates, latitude, longitude to pinpoint our location with physical space, Kamble proposes that our feelings, things like love, hope, faith, these serve as coordinates in this mental space.

OK, that's a pretty cool analogy. But how does that tie into the idea of a spiritual revolution though?

Well, he suggests that just has higher altitude corresponds to higher potential energy, higher levels of positive feelings actually relate to higher mental energy states within this Mental space. He even goes as far as to suggest the existence of what he calls God zones.

God zones. That sounds a little out there. Is he implying that, like Buddha was some kind of superhuman being or something?

Not necessarily, no. He uses that term God zones to represent the highest levels of mental energy within this framework.

Think of it this way, just like objects in physical space have potential energy based on their position, we have what you might call mental energy based on our position in this mental space.

So he's proposing that Buddha, through cultivating these incredibly positive feelings, achieved an incredibly high Mental energy state.

OK, so it's not about like supernatural powers, but about mastering our internal state, our feelings, to reach these higher levels of mental energy.

Precisely. And this mastery, according to Kamble, is the key to unlocking the potential of this spiritual revolution.

I'm already starting to see how this model could be helpful. Instead of thinking of spirituality as something vague or mystical, it provides a more concrete framework.

But what about traditional religion? Where does that fit into all of this?

Well, Kamble attempts to separate spirituality from organized religion in his model. He proposes that spirituality is an inherent quality within all individuals, regardless of their religious beliefs.

So it's not about following a specific like dogma or set of rituals, but about cultivating these positive feelings, these higher energy states within ourselves.

He argues that this is something everyone has the potential to do, regardless of their background.

Enlightenment & Spiritual Laws of the Universe

So then what about enlightenment? How does Kamble's model address that concept?

Well, we often think of enlightenment as this sudden moment, like an aha moment, a profound insight.

But Kamble, he suggests that enlightened individuals like Buddha may have actually achieved an understanding of what he calls the spiritual laws of the universe.

Spiritual laws.

Is he talking about some kind of cosmic rule book for the mind?

Essentially, yes.

He believes that just as the physical world operates according to the laws of physics, there are also specific laws governing the mental or spiritual realm.

And figures like Buddha, he argues, may have reached a level of understanding that allowed them to perceive and utilize these laws in ways that most of us can't even fathom.

That's a pretty mind blowing concept. But if these spiritual laws exist, why don't they seem to work for everyone? Why isn't everyone walking around enlightened if it's just about following some cosmic rule?

That's a great question. And Kamble, he addresses this directly.

He suggests that our lack of understanding and control over our own mental states, our position in the mental space. This hinders our ability to consistently apply these laws.

He uses the example of Gandhi, who he believes succeeded because he operated from a higher mental energy state achieved through unwavering faith in his chosen path.

So it's not that the laws are flawed, but that we're often operating on a lower frequency, so to speak. Which makes accessing and utilizing these laws inconsistent.

It goes back to that idea of mastering our internal state, our position in the mental space.

All right. So we've got this mental space, these God zones and these Universal Laws of spiritual lawsscience. And Kamble believes that understanding all of this is key to this spiritual revolution.

But what does that actually look like in practice?

Well, he envisions a future where we develop scientific methods to navigate this mental space and achieve those higher spiritual states more intentionally and effectively. He even proposes the idea of spiritual clinics.

That sounds like something straight out of a science fiction novel.

But you know, remember, so did the idea of flying a few centuries ago.

What Kamble is getting at is that if we can approach spirituality with a more scientific lens, the possibilities for human potential and self mastery could be extraordinary.

This is all so fascinating.

We've covered a lot of ground. But I still have so many questions. Like Kamble mentioned this new language he's proposing, Methematics. What's that all about and how does it tie into the model?

Well, he argues that we need a new language to understand and quantify the laws governing the spiritual realm. Just like mathematics is the language of the physical world and physical science.

So if we could measure feelings as precisely as we measure distance or time, we could potentially unlock a whole new level of understanding about the mind.

Precisely. And Kamble believes the key to developing this mentomatics lies in our ability to measure those feelings, the coordinates of the mental space.

Just as measuring distances, the coordinates of the physical space, was the key to developing mathematics.

He argues that once we can quantify them, we can start to map out this space more precisely, understand its laws, and ultimately develop a science of the mind as robust as physics.

Wow, that's a pretty bold idea. But measuring feelings seems like a monumental task.

It does, but so did measuring heat, light, energy seem almost impossible a few years back.

Why does he think this is so crucial to the spiritual revolution?

Well, he draws a parallel with the development of math and physics. He reminds us that before we could measure distances, we were largely ignorant of the laws governing the physical world.

It was only through developing mathematics that we could quantify those laws and begin to understand and predict physical phenomena.

So we're sort of in a Pre-Mentomatics era when it comes to understanding the mind.

I like that

We have some general ideas and spiritual practices, but we lack the precise language and tools to truly map out and navigate this inner world.

Exactly.

And Kamble believes that the discovery of Mentomatics could usher in a whole new era of scientific exploration in the spiritual realm. Imagine being able to study spiritual phenomena in a laboratory. Replicating spiritual experiences with the same precision as physics experiments today.

Yeah, that would certainly revolutionize our understanding of spirituality.

It would.

But in the meantime, how does he suggest we approach spirituality given our current limitations?

Well, he acknowledges those limitations, but remains optimistic about the future.

He encourages us to think outside the traditional boundaries of religion and consider a more scientific approach.

He also emphasizes personal exploration. Each individual, he argues, can contribute to the development of this spiritual science.

It's not just about waiting for some big scientific breakthrough, but about actively engaging with our own spirituality and seeking to understand our own minds.

I love that. It's a call to action for all of us to become active participants in this spiritual revolution, not just passive observers.

It's about recognizing that we all have the potential to uncover insights and contribute to this new understanding of the mind.

This is all so incredibly thought provoking.

We've covered a lot of ground from mental space and God zones to spiritual laws and this fascinating concept of Mentomatics.

World Peace

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But how does Kamble tie all of this back to the idea of World Peace, which he mentioned at the beginning? How does this model actually promote peace?

We'll dive deeper into that in the next part of our deep dive.

So Kamble argues that the model promotes peace in a couple of interesting ways.

The first is by offering a new framework for understanding spirituality, one that's rooted in science and observable phenomena rather than faith or dogma.

So instead of getting bogged down in arguments about, like, whose belief system is correct, we can focus on these universal principles of the mind that theoretically everything could agree on.

And the second point Kamble makes is that the model emphasizes the importance of achieving that high energy state of mind we talked about.

Residing in those higher regions of the mental space.

So rather than focusing on the differences between religions, we should focus on that shared goal of achieving a higher state of consciousness.

He uses the analogy of reaching a mountaintop, there are many paths you can take, but the destination is the same. He suggests that all religions at their core are simply different methods for achieving that same spiritual evolution.

The only problem is that they are old bullock-cart methods. We need a modern jet-age method.

They are outdated archaic bullock-cart methods. We need a fast cutting-edge jet-age method.

like trying to send a letter by pigeon when we have email. We need solutions fit for the digital age

It's a really compelling idea.

Imagine a world where religions, instead of dividing us, become sources of unity and collaboration. All working towards that same, that same shared goal.

And Kamble believes that this shift in perspective could drastically reduce conflict and promote peace.

He even suggests that future generations might look back on our current beliefs and religious conflicts with amusement. Much like we view those who believed the earth was flat.

It's certainly a hopeful vision. But let's shift gears for a second. Mentomatics – How it can Revolutionise

Kamble suggests that if we can develop tools to precisely measure feelings, we could start to map the mental space in a more quantifiable way.

Imagine, for instance, being able to assign numerical values to feelings like love, hope, or fear.

So instead of just saying I feel happy, you could say, “I'm experiencing 8.5 units of joy or something.”

Exactly.

And then you could start to study how different actions, thoughts, or experiences influence those measurements. How does meditation impact your joy units? What about spending time in nature or listening to certain types of music?

Wow, that would open up a whole new world of research and understanding. We could actually study the impact of our choices and actions on our mental states with scientific precision.

But let's go back to Kamble's idea of spiritual clinics for a minute. I'm still trying to wrap my head around that concept.

Sure, it's definitely a radical idea.

He imagines a future where people could go to these clinics to receive guidance on how to achieve specific mental states.

Think of it like a doctor prescribing medicine. But instead they're prescribing practices or techniques to help you reach a desired level of mental energy.

So say someone is struggling with anxiety or wants to cultivate more compassion or creativity. . Instead of prescribing medication, a spiritual clinician might recommend like specific cutting-edge techniques (possibly faster and more advanced techniques than meditation techniques or mindfulness practices) to help them kind of shift their mental state

precisely.

Or imagine someone who wants to cultivate more compassion or creativity.is experiencing incessant failure and wants to succeed in an activity, say sports

These clinics could offer personalized guidance based on a scientific understanding of the mental space and how to navigate it effectively

and reach a mental state having higher mental energy to manifest success.

It's a really intriguing idea. But I have to admit, it also raises some questions for me. For instance, how do we ensure that this knowledge, this ability to potentially manipulate mental state isn't misused? Could it be used to control people or exploit them in some way?

Those are valid concerns and ones that Kamble acknowledges in his paper.

He argues that every new technology, like nuclear power and gunpowder, comes with both benefits and risks. Human societies have consistently developed laws to mitigate the dangers posed by new technologies. He stresses the importance of developing this spiritual science responsibly and ethically.

He argues that education and open dialogue will be crucial to ensure that this knowledge is used for the betterment of humanity, not for harm.

That makes sense.

It's like any powerful technology.

It can be used for good or for ill. And it's up to us to ensure that it's used wisely.

Exactly.

He believes that by approaching this new frontier of knowledge with wisdom and compassion, we can harness its power to create a more peaceful and fulfilling world for everyone.

Immediate Benefits

OK, So we've talked about the spiritual revolution, Mentomatics and these futuristic spiritual clinics, but I'm wondering, what about the here and now?

What can we as individuals do with this knowledge today?

Well, First, Kamble looks at a more peaceful world as a short-term benefit. Research into Mind Science and Mentomatics would be long-term gains.

Secondly, Kamble encourages us to start by becoming more aware of our own internal states.

He emphasizes the importance of paying attention to our thoughts and feelings, recognizing how they influence our mental state, energy, actions and experiences.

So it's about cultivating that self-awareness, becoming more mindful of our own mental space, even if we can't measure it precisely yet.

Exactly.

He suggests that by becoming more conscious of our internal landscape, we can start to make choices that lead to greater well-being and fulfilment, even without the advanced tools of Mentomatics or spiritual clinics.

I love that.

It's empowering to think that we don't have to wait for some future revolution to start taking charge of our own mental and spiritual well-being.

Even simple practices like meditation, gratitude exercises, or spending time in nature can have a profound impact on our mental states.

By incorporating these practices into our lives, we can start to navigate our own mental space more intentionally and move towards those higher energy states, those God zones that Kamble talks about.

That's a great point.

It's not about some magical transformation, but about making conscious choices that align with our values and aspirations, those positive feelings that create a higher energy state within us.

It's about taking responsibility for our own inner growth and evolution, recognizing that we all have the potential to become architects of our own mental and spiritual well-being.

This has been such a fascinating and thought-provoking discussion. Kamble's ideas are certainly challenging. But they offer a fresh perspective on spirituality and its potential role in creating a more peaceful and harmonious world.

He invites us to question our assumptions, to consider the possibility that our understanding of the mind and its capabilities is still in its infancy.

And he leaves us with a sense of optimism, a belief that by embracing this new frontier of knowledge, we can unlock extraordinary possibility for individual and collective transformation.

He argues that this spiritual revolution, fuelled by advancements in mind science and potentially even Mentomatics could be the key to creating a world where peace, compassion and understanding prevail.

It's certainly a vision worth striving for.

Gandhi's Example

But before we get swept away by the possibilities of the future, I want to bring us back to the present for a minute.

Kamble mentions a rather provocative concept in his paper. This idea that figures like Gandhi may have tapped into these spiritual laws of the universe to achieve their goals. How does he explain that, and what does it mean for the rest of us?

We'll explore that and more in the final part of our deep dive.

We left off talking about Gandhi and these figures who might have been able to tap into those spiritual laws of the universe.

Can you unpack that a little bit more for us?

So Kamble suggests that individuals like Gandhi, who achieve these remarkable things, right, despite seemingly insurmountable obstacles, may have intuitively understood and applied these spiritual laws in a way that amplified their actions.

So it's not that they had superpowers, but rather they had a deep understanding of these principles governing the mind, which allowed them to be more effective.

Kamble argues that Gandhi's unwavering faith in his approach, his commitment to nonviolence, created this powerful mental state. And a position in the mental space that allowed him to tap into these spiritual laws and create extraordinary change.

That's a fascinating concept. It makes you wonder if we could all achieve similar results, if we understood and applied these laws more consciously.

That's the exciting possibility that Kamble's model presents. Like if we can develop a deeper understanding of these spiritual laws through research and experimentation, perhaps we can all learn to utilize them more effectively.

It's like learning the rules of a game. Once you understand the rules, you can play more strategically and increase your chances of winning.

That's a great analogy.

Kamble believes that by understanding the rules of the mental space, the spiritual laws that govern our inner world, we can become more effective agents of change, both in our own lives and in the world around us.

The Skeptics

But let's be honest, some people might be, you know, skeptical about all this.

It's one thing to talk about mental space and spiritual laws, but how do we know this isn't just some elaborate philosophical theory? Is there any evidence to support these claims?

Well, Kamble acknowledges that.

Much of this is still theoretical.

Yet for the skeptics, he constantly reminds you of the physical world and physical science. There is no evidence, but there is a strong parallel. The physical space and laws of physical science too were mysteries once. It was unthinkable and unimaginable for a medieval age person, not to talk of the Stone Age person, to imagine what has become possible in the physical world. Such a person has to 'Think the Unthinkable' to visualise today's wonders of science. Similarly, today we need to think the unthinkable to visualise the future.

He also emphasizes the need for rigorous scientific investigation, especially when it comes to developing mentomatics and mapping mental space.

So he's not claiming to have all the answers, but rather inviting us to kind of join him in exploring these ideas and seeking evidence.

Exactly. He sees his model as a starting point. A framework for asking the right questions and conducting research that could potentially revolutionize our understanding of the mind and its capabilities.

And he also encourages individuals to explore these concepts in their own lives, to become like active participants in this search for understanding.

He believes that personal experimentation and exploration are essential. Each individual's experience can contribute valuable insights to this emerging field of spiritual science.

So it's not just about waiting for scientists to figure it all out, but about each of us taking an active role in exploring our own inner world and how it interacts with the world around us.

He suggests that by paying close attention to our thoughts, feelings, and actions, we can start to discern patterns and principles that might point towards these spiritual laws in action.

So even if we don't have sophisticated measurement tools or access to spiritual clinics, yeah, we can still start to investigate these ideas in our own lives through mindful observation and self-reflection.

And who knows, maybe those personal insights will contribute to the development of Mentomatics or other scientific breakthroughs in the future.

This deep dive has been such a fascinating journey. It was filled with thought provoking concepts and mind bending possibilities.

Lots to think about.

We've explored a truly unique model of spirituality, one that dares to bridge the gap between science and the mystical and invites us to reimagine the potential of the human mind.

Kamble's model is both challenging and inspiring. It challenges us to question our assumptions about the nature of reality and to consider that our current understanding of the mind is just the tip of the iceberg.

And it inspires us to think about the extraordinary possibilities that might unfold if we can truly unlock the secrets of the mental space and learn to navigate it with wisdom and skill. He leaves us with a sense of wonder and a call to action, inviting us to become explorers of our own inner worlds and pioneers in this new frontier of human understanding.

This has been an incredible exploration of Kamble's model. We've covered mental space, God zones, spiritual laws.

This fascinating concept of mentomatics, all pointing towards this possibility of a spiritual revolution that could transform our world.

Yeah, a lot to ponder.

Human Potential

But as we wrap up our deep dive, I want to leave you, our listener, with one final thought.

If feelings could one day be measured and manipulated as precisely as physical quantities, what would that mean for our understanding of human potential?

The nature of consciousness. And perhaps even the very fabric of reality itself. That's something to ponder as you continue your own journey of exploration and discovery.